WWII Bulova ORD CORPS. Stainless Steel Case measures 39mm lug to lug x 32mm wide non inclusive of the Crown while using Calipers. White Dial shows Military standard Arabic numerals and Black printed tracks. Hour and Minute Hands are Military radium and a radium 10AK Military Seconds Hand appears on a sub Dial fully obscuring the 6. Anti-magnetic dust shield and Gasket between Caseback and Movement. 10 sided Stainless Steel Caseback screws on and is stamped as shown.
* although the Movement is Dated to 1944 this style of Military Case did not appear until 1945-'46. as found - glass in poor condition.
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Go read the docs yourself, they are all linked to on the "1950 A-17A" thread.
Any docs to verify the existence of a 10AK in this style case, which was not used by Bulova until the 1950's, as stated by genuine, bona-fide milwatch experts?
I do not need proof, it is up to the claimant to provide that, and all we will get is the same old same old.
Don't ask me any more questions on this one, I'm done.
We now have an ad showing what appears to be this style of Case dating to 1946. The milwatch experts I have read, and I have read many and studied the Bulova Military issue wristwatch for countless Hours, also indicate the Case design existed in 1946: as indicated by the * in the original entry. Here's an interesting read provided by the Hamilton Chronicles: http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/01/hamilton-military-usmc-korean…
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The above linked site is for a vintage Hamilton watch restorer, and not a military watch expert. I asked him a question and his reply showed this, although his knowledge about restoring and movements is extremely good, Hamilton seems to be his forte, and not military timepieces.
If you look at the case in the 1946 ad, it bears only a passing resemblance to the case in question.
You constantly use other brands to try and prove a point, but it is only Bulova we are concerned with, and they only received the specs for this type of case in January 1949, which was for the type A-17, which only Waltham went on to make.
I want to make one thing VERY clear.
Just because you say something, it does not mean it is true.
Try using a few more "IMO's", as that is all it is, an opinion.
Anyone reading this should also read the whole thread, and remember to look at the documents pertaining to Bulova that are linked to by hq-sandman-ute in the "1950 A-17A" thread mentioned above.
EDIT:- The Hamilton in the above picture is a Korean war era model, from the 1950's, so this only goes to show how inaccurate your claim is.
So much for being done? If You read linked the text above the image of the Hamilton, paragraph 5. 'The case is a rugged parkerized case with a screw-on back made by the Star Watch Case Co. The parkerized case was introduced at the end of WWII with the 987A movement.' The case is a rugged parkerized case with a screw-on back made by the Star Watch Case Co. The parkerized case was introduced at the end of WWII. WWII ended in 1945.
Oh dear. You still insist on using other brands when we are talking Bulova. This case does not conform to military specs of the time, therefore it is non-conforming I refer to the TM9-1575 April 1945 Ordinance manual, figures 165-166 show the case specifications for the Bulova, and yours aint it.
Entering the Fray: I have experience in working on every military model watch. I have bought, sold, and still have tons of Bulova, Elgin, Hamilton, and Waltham military watches. I have loads of cases, case back covers, dials (NOS), movements, parts etc. I can quite frankly state no man is an expert. Naturally there are military spec publications, and I try to adhere ridgedly to them....but there are so many different variants of cases that it is impossible to go into all of it. I can't even sort it all out most of the time. The cases and retaining rings varied greatly, as did the dust cap covers - which some included and some did not. However, Fifth is right about the only hacking models were sweep second models. There were no sub-second hacking watches issued by the military. The case in question (as to wheter its authentic to the 10AK movement) was certainly issued with a 10AK movement. There are also similar Waltham and Elgin models. There are USMC variants cases stamped "1917-H" that normally had white dials issued by the USMC and had 10AK movements. The A-11 Bulova models came with two and three-piece cases. The A-17 also had two and three-piece cases. So my suggestion is....lighten-up everyone. There is far too much negative discourse over the trivial in member's posts sometimes. If the watch movement fits, and the dial fits, and the hands are correct - who wants to stand-up and declare themself the expert to dispute whether it's authentic or not? NOT ME....and I have more experience then most commenting here. Love the watch...and move on to the next project.