M5 Astronaut correct bracelet

Submitted by jono_1uk on

Good evening 

have just purchased an m5 Astro ( not received yet) would a coffin bracelet be the period correct?

Jon

mybulova_admin
Posted January 13, 2024 - 8:09pm

Would depend on the Astronaut model, but model "214" ceratinly did.

This linebook entry is hand dated to 1965.

1965 Bulova Accutron "214" 

jono_1uk
Posted January 13, 2024 - 8:15pm

My apologies 

It is a 214   ..a swiss model with closed 4 and tuning fork logo at 12.00

was it known as an alligator strap back in the day?

Jon 

 

jono_1uk
Posted January 13, 2024 - 8:24pm

Also just noticed it is a pre astro dial? 

did they do one in 65? 

Jon 

mybulova_admin
Posted January 13, 2024 - 8:59pm

So the model above is also known as the Accutron Astronaut "A" (B had a white dial).

I'd say that the coffin bracelet is certainly period for 1965 and we can see the the "A" variant used it.

The question remains, did your version come with the coffin or bullet bracelet. I'm still looking to see if I can answwr that question. 

mybulova_admin
Posted January 13, 2024 - 9:00pm

Further I'm also curious about the lack of 'ASTRONAUT' on the dial. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing, but I do wonder why this version does not have it. Issued maybe?

jono_1uk
Posted January 13, 2024 - 9:01pm

Thanks!

so the pre astro dial  is correct for an M5?  

jono_1uk
Posted January 13, 2024 - 9:02pm

sorry posted as you did ..

jono_1uk
Posted January 13, 2024 - 9:25pm

Thanks 

 

A I have been all over that site..been trying to confirm if a pre astro dial was made in 65  .. 

mybulova_admin
Posted January 13, 2024 - 10:56pm

This is the part I found interesting 'Late 1963 Bulova added "Astronaut" to the dial.....'

1963

Bulova started making the all stainless steel Astronaut in 1962 and sometime around late 1962 / early 1963 they changed the first type of hands to the luminous hands which are the most commonly seen. At the same time luminous paint was added to the dial hour markers to match the luminous hands. Other than that one change to the dial it is exactly the same as the very first dial to be used in the all stainless steel 1962 Astronaut watches. Late 1963 Bulova added "Astronaut" to the dial and also added the large luminous dots in-between the now luminous hour markers. Stanless steel silver dials now also seen.

1964 Bulova name begins to appear on dial above Accutron.In rare cases below! The "bullet" bracelet introduced.

1965 Applied metal logo and hour indices appear on some dials. 24hr counter hand changes to clear the higher dial markers.

1968 All black 24 hour and black-white day night bezel options appear.

1970 Mark II version with square case and twin crown makes a dramatic departure from the original model

1977 The last of the 214 movements are made and the original Astronaut is no more

jono_1uk
Posted January 14, 2024 - 4:42am

mmmm  ok so possible its a 1962 re-cased or a 65 re-dialled? 

 

Jon 

mybulova_admin
Posted January 14, 2024 - 4:50am

In reply to by jono_1uk

According to above, it seems possible that is the case. Again I cannot say for sure, perhaps one of the Accutron experts here could confirm, but certainly according to above the word ASTRONAUT was introduced to the dial in 1963, meaning your 1965 case would be housing an earlier dial and possibly movement.

jono_1uk
Posted January 14, 2024 - 6:49am

I also think the hands are not period for the dial ? 

so 65 hands on a possible 62 dial?  

sorry for all the questions ..hoping someone can set my mind at rest

mybulova_admin
Posted January 14, 2024 - 7:47pm

Looking through other examples of this model, it certainly does apppear that the hands are incorrect also.

Geoff Baker
Posted January 14, 2024 - 10:46pm

Here's my two cents (or perhaps shillings in your case). I've owned hundreds of watches over the years. Some I thought were original, some I PRAYED were original and some I knew were not original. I loved each and every one with no regard. I bought them because I liked them and in most cases, still do. There is no way you'll ever be 100% certain that a particular watch is 100% original unless you walked it out of the factory the day it was made. 

Love the watch Jon. Wear it, be proud of it. 

jono_1uk
Posted January 17, 2024 - 9:37am

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jono_1uk
Posted January 17, 2024 - 9:37am

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jono_1uk
Posted January 17, 2024 - 9:39am

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