Explanation of the movement numbers

Submitted by Stinky_Sullivan on

I did a little research and figured out what each letter of the Bulova movement numbers mean. This may be written down somewhere but I’ve never seen it. This applies to mechanical movements only.

After the first 2 letters, every letter after that has a specific meaning.

A = Automatic
B = Day-Date
C = Sweep seconds
D = Calender (date)
F = No seconds hand
L = No seconds hand
H = Hack
R = Alarm
S = Glycidur balance
U = Jump Hour

I found one exception to the use of the R. The 10BMCHR doesn’t have an alarm function. All the other movements I found with an R are Wrist Alarm’s.

The number at the beginning of the movement number is a direct reference to the size measured in ligne. For example, the 10BUC is a 10.5 ligne movement. For the movements that are not round, it refers to the smaller of the two measurements. As examples, the 6AB measures 6.75x11 ligne and the 8AH measures 8x9 ligne. Whether the number be 10.5, 6.75 or any other non whole number , the number is rounded down. There is one exception. The 14EFAD is a 13.75 ligne movement. Bulova rounded up on this one movement for some reason.

JimDon5822
Posted January 23, 2025 - 10:54pm

This is some good stuff and thank you for doing the research and posting.    Some of the panel members that have been around longer might be able to know if there have been previous discussions.  

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 23, 2025 - 11:00pm

I said “after the first 2 letters.” Only the C is relevant for this nomenclature. The 10BUC has a sweep seconds and no other extra features.

JimDon5822
Posted January 23, 2025 - 11:02pm

I just saw that and edited by comments while you were replying.  Very compelling.  

 

JimDon5822
Posted January 23, 2025 - 11:23pm

I cannot find any reference to the 10BMCHR movement.  I think you mean the 10BNCHR which is on the train timer.   I wonder if the R in this case is related to the Micro Regulator.   It is possible the position of the R in the caliber number makes this different.  The 11AERC the R is in the third position and would indicate Alarm but in the 11BNCHR it is in the fifth position indicating micro regulator.   It sounds logical and fits perfectly into your assessment.   BTW I had to look up the Glycidur balance.  I had never heard of that before..

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 23, 2025 - 11:30pm

In reply to by JimDon5822

Yes, it’s the Train Timer movement.

I found the reference to the Glycidur balance in the Ranfft app under remarks for the 17AH. It specifically says “suffix S: Glycidur balance”.

JimDon5822
Posted January 24, 2025 - 2:02pm

So I think your list should be updated as follows:

After the first 2 letters, every letter beginning in the 3rd alphabetic position has a specific meaning.

  • A = Automatic
    B = Day-Date
    C = Sweep seconds
    D = Calender (date)
    F = No seconds hand
    L = No seconds hand
    H = Hack
    R  (leading R- 3rd position) = Alarm
  • R  (trailing R- 5th position) = Micro regulator
    S = Glycidur balance
    U = Jump Hour

I am surprised there was not a micro rotor designation letter.  

Alex
Posted January 24, 2025 - 7:29pm

This is great info. Thank you Stinky Sullivan for researching this!

mybulova_admin
Posted January 24, 2025 - 9:08pm

What is a 'jump hour' feature? is this were you can move the hour hand back and for between the 9 and 12 positions to advance the date?

Do all these letter designates relate to Bulova movements?

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 25, 2025 - 9:31pm

In reply to by JimDon5822

The owner of that watch is a member here. He will be posting it soon.

GuyMontag
Posted January 25, 2025 - 11:49pm

In reply to by JimDon5822

I also refer to these as 'Jump Hour' but I believe 'Digital' may be the correct industry terminology. My grail watch is a digital, a A. Lange & Söhne Zeitwerk, an amazing blend of vintage and modern horology and esthetics. 

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 26, 2025 - 1:07am

In reply to by GuyMontag

Both terms are corrrct. BuLova used the term Jump Hour in 1932. Jerin has one in the database.. https://mybulova.com/watches/1932-jump-hour-2860Jabs has one also. https://mybulova.com/watches/1932-jump-hour-6417
 BuLova used the term digital in 1974. I prefer the term Jump Hour because digital also applies to LED and LCD watches. Jump Hour has no alternate application.

mybulova_admin
Posted January 26, 2025 - 2:35am

In reply to by GuyMontag

Oh my that is a gorgeous watch.....now where did I hide that spare $132,000...was it under the mattress?

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 24, 2025 - 9:24pm

A jump hour is technically an early digital. Instead of a dial, it has an hour and minute wheel. The hour wheel doesn’t slowly rotate. It jumps from one number to the next. There are 5 in the member watches from the 1930’s but Bulova made them in the 70’s also. There’s one posted in the Faceygroup from 1974. It has hours, minutes, seconds, date, and it’s an automatic. I believe it has the 11OWAUD movement. I’d post a picture but I don’t know how. I’ll send Jim a picture and he can post it.

To answer your last question, yes, all these letters apply to Bulova movements. You can look at any movement number and identify all its functional features without have to see the movement itself. Using the 11OWAUD as an example. After the first 2 letters, it has AUD. A is automatic. U is jump hour. D is date.

mybulova_admin
Posted January 24, 2025 - 9:51pm

In reply to by Stinky_Sullivan

Ok so it's a jump hour in the true sense of what we know a jump hour to be. So how does ths work for a 10BUC, which does not seem to be associated with a jump hour watch.

So I guess it comes back to my question what years do these letter designators relate to?

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 24, 2025 - 9:54pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Disregard the first 2 letters of the movement number. This only applies to the letters after that. The 10BUC just has one letter to decode and that’s the C which means it has a sweep seconds.

mybulova_admin
Posted January 24, 2025 - 9:56pm

In reply to by Stinky_Sullivan

Ahh penny dropped. These designators only apply to the letters after the first 2. Thanks for explianing. I missed that part. Nice work!

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted January 24, 2025 - 10:09pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

As to your last question, some of the very early movement numbers have 3 letters like the 6AAI. I do not know what the I stands for. The 6AMC is the earliest example of more than 2 letters being used with this nomenclature m. It appears that as soon as Bulova started using a 3rd letter other than “I” that it applied. Unless there’s an earlier example, 1940 is when this started. There’s no 6AMC in the database here. I found it listed on Watchophilia.

plainsmen
Posted January 26, 2025 - 4:01am

Great stuff Matt!  I'm so glad you posted it.  He had brought this up to me a couple days ago and I thought it pretty wild.  I'm like, you HAVE to post this for the panel to see.  Good job man!

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted February 7, 2025 - 2:46pm

I found a movement number that doesn’t follow this nomenclature. I have no idea why. The 10CSC is an automatic. If you follow the nomenclature, it should be 10CSAC.

GuyMontag
Posted February 7, 2025 - 3:21pm

In reply to by Stinky_Sullivan

Same with the 10BRC. Others like the 9AB, 9AS/ASC, and 10AU have the 'A', but not after the first two letters.

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted February 8, 2025 - 12:04am

In reply to by GuyMontag

When I find the time, I will do an audit of all the movements and see exactly which ones don’t follow the nomenclature. I think it’s interesting the feature not identified in each move is just the automatic.

JimDon5822
Posted February 8, 2025 - 9:50pm

In reply to by Stinky_Sullivan

Thanks for the great work.  It is not 100% perfect but 98% IS GREAT.  Helps alot.

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted February 9, 2025 - 10:51pm

In reply to by JimDon5822

It’s not perfect yet. It’s just an explanation that needs refinement. I can’t explain why Bulova didn’t add the A to those automatic movements but the fact it’s just the automatic features makes it easy to define the exception.

mart1n888
Posted February 10, 2025 - 4:03pm

i wonder if the second letter P in the 7BPP mean something? thank for your time !

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted February 13, 2025 - 6:26pm

In reply to by mart1n888

The P doesn’t mean anything on its own. The only time we see the P is when it is a double letter. Other examples of double letters are the 11AFF, 11ALL, and 11BLL. In each case, the 3rd letter is a duplicate to the 2nd. All of these movements lack a seconds hand entirely.

Stinky_Sullivan
Posted June 16, 2025 - 10:06am

There are 4 movements that do not follow this naming system. All are 10 ligne automatic movements. Bulova did not include the A after the first 2 letters to indicate an automatic movement.

10AU
10AUC
10BRC
10CSC