Bulova 1977 -Non-Conforming

Submitted by Beatlloydy on
Manufacture Year
1977
Movement Model
11AOACB
Movement Jewels
23
Case Serial No.
1234567
Case shape
Round
Case color
White
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Hi. i cannot find a serial number. Watch was purchased off eBay Australia for Aud $299 Seller does not know anything about heritage. I have done numerous Google and reverse image to no avail. Whale symbol indicates Sea King but it is unlike any models I have seen. It looks like a 1953 submariner homage to my untrained eye. Is it a Frankenwatch 😩

taken from screenshot 10/8/22
taken from screenshot 10/8/22
taken from screenshot 10/8/22
taken from screenshot 10/8/22
mybulova_admin
Posted August 11, 2022 - 4:32am

Does it say N-17 on the inside case back? Is there anything else on the inside case.

I've had a quick look through the 1977 official linebooks bt do not see a match for the case.

Curious that the minute hand is a different color to the hour hand.

Still looking.

Beatlloydy
Posted August 11, 2022 - 5:51am

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Thanks. It does say N17  and also Hong Kong inside  (but N7 on outside). I picked it up from post office today and its tiny at 35mm but it looks and wears fantastic. The bezel is bidirectional with no clicking but turns smoothly.

I'm happy with what I paid and it has led me down the whole Sea King path with the whale symbol. I bought it from Ebay Australia person but they could give no information of its providence. The mechanism seems to date from 1977/78 based on the info from your site. Perhaps its a well done Mumbai restoration of dial and hands but the bezel has me stumped on Sea Kings of this era. Have never seen one in a dive style bezel and that blue colour. I did google reverse image searches as well and nothing close. So far it is running well and has kept time for at least 3 hours since I picked it up.

Cheers  Michael 

Andersok
Posted August 12, 2022 - 7:28am

I have to lean towards this one being put together with various parts. The whale symbol was seen around 1970, and with the case being 1977 the dial would not match. The seconds hand is also rather short and should extend to the outer track. Unfortunately, the books do not list this case number, which would allow us to know the movement model that should match. 1977 is a stretch for the the 11AOACB, which by the way, is a day/date movement, and this watch clearly does not have those windows.

Non-conforming

Beatlloydy
Posted August 12, 2022 - 11:28am

In reply to by Andersok

Thanks for looking at it. Not as disappointed as I thought I would be as it seems to run well and it is a unique watch. I'll just call it a Bulova modded. Re the short 2nds hand. It sort of works on that dial  due to the crosshairs so the seconds hand sweeps just under the hour markers.

cheers - Michael 

Geoff Baker
Posted August 14, 2022 - 9:31pm

Michael, I've looked a couple times and can't find anything that matches. Based on the combination of components from different years I agree with Ken that it's a Non-Conforming watch (doesn't conform to a known Bulova model).

PS - I like it, I'd wear it!

Beatlloydy
Posted August 14, 2022 - 10:32pm

In reply to by Geoff Baker

Thanks.  i did see one with a bezel (sort of like the vostok bezels) with this movement and it had a day/date function which goes with comments about wrong movement.  Using magnifying glass i can see middle hand has been repainted but not well.  The good part is I have been wearing it on and off for about 70 hours and it is still very accurate for an old mechanical watch.  Its still a keeper for me.  Thanks to those looking into it. Its an interesting journey.

neetstuf-4-u
Posted August 15, 2022 - 9:19am

I also have been back to this one multiple times and have to agree at this point that it is a combination of parts. That being said, it is cool - wear it and enjoy it.

1977 Non-conforming

JimDon5822
Posted August 17, 2022 - 1:02pm

As a non-conforming it is an awesome looking watch.

JEV1A
Posted August 17, 2022 - 7:46pm

Its a Sea King with a Case of unknown origins although the inside spacer around the movement  looks to be a good fit. Movement needs to be tight. Sea King cases are wonderful, somebody probably scrapped for gold content the original case. I have several pristine Sea King cases that would work but I'm in the USA. I would get rid of that case and find a empty Sea King case of the same era. Before Hong Kong, look for Swiss and West German cases. If you adapt to a Sea King case then you get back to a conforming watch. JV - Time & Again 

Beatlloydy
Posted August 18, 2022 - 10:25pm

In reply to by JEV1A

Hi - thanks for the reply. I have come to reconcile the fact it is a frankenwatch. I'm not as upset as I thought I would be. I really like the case and the dial which is what seems to be the fake parts. The movement is very accurate for a mechanical movement that is 45 years old.  I have decided to leave it as is and search out another Sea King that is original.  I thank you for your information and its been much appreciated. Knowing what you do what model of Sea King in the vintage range would you suggest be a good one to look out for. My birth year is 1963 and so far no Sea Kings from then have come up for sale.

cheers