Bulova 1945 Time King

Submitted by FifthAvenueRes… on
Manufacture Year
1945
Movement Model
7AP
Movement Date Code
Triangle
Movement Jewels
21
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
4270583
Case shape
Rectangle
Case color
Yellow
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Case measures 35mm lug to lug X 20.5mm non inclusive of the Crown using Calipers.  Silvered Dial shows applied Gilt Arabic numerals, tracks and Bulova signature are printed in Black. Hour and Minute Hands are Gilt Modern and a Gilt Modern Seconds Hand shows on a sub-Dial fully obscuring the 6.  Double Datestamp on the Movement. Snap fit Caseback is Gold and stamped as shown.

 

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FifthAvenueRes…
Posted December 17, 2013 - 10:10pm

believed to be the 'TIME KING'

JP
Posted December 18, 2013 - 1:35am

Another magnificent

watch Mark.

I can't find any thin in the data base for it. 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted December 19, 2013 - 8:06am

John,

The glass is shown to fit the 'BROADCASTER' and 'TIME KING' of era. The 'BROADCASTER' has been identified by advertisement as a similar watch with a 17 Jewel Movement, which by process of elimination leaves the 21 Jewel 'TIME KING'.

bourg01
Posted December 27, 2013 - 11:04am

I've also seen this watch in rose gold. Actually thought we had ID'd this model.

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted December 27, 2013 - 12:13pm

Shawn,

We have, the 17 Jewel 'BROADCASTER', the subject is showing 21 Jewels.

William Smith
Posted December 27, 2013 - 10:03pm

I'm good with a tentative ID of "TIME KING" based on crystal specs that match, Rose vs. Yellow, and the jewel count difference from Broadcaster.   I think both contemporary Broadcasters in the database and Broadcaster ads of this time period show or suggest Rose Gold.  Fifth has one Broadcaster record entered as "Rose Gold".  The ads support that ID.  



TIME KING based on crystal specs, jewel count, and Rose vs Yellow gold.  It's a "guess" based on the crystal specs.  The case diminsions between the two are very close - like rounding or caliper error close.  So Rose w/ lower jewel count was BROADCASTER,  and subject watch is yellow w/ higher jewel count (and non-"Rose" dial).  Two ticks tentative, and we update if/when another ad comes along.  

It's all speculation, but so goes Bulova ID'ing without a supporting ad.  

 

Geoff Baker
Posted December 28, 2013 - 5:57am

I'm still at Broadcaster on this one. I know there's a difference in jewel count but we have no ads for Time King. I can't go along with an ID based on a deduction from a crystal packet.

William Smith
Posted December 29, 2013 - 11:55pm

The Broadcaster ads all suggest or state Rose gold.  This yellow gold /dial combo may have been something other than Broadcaster.  Now I'm thinking unknown, as we do see period-similar watches with different model names based on Rose vs Yellow....

So Broadcaster, Time King or unknown?  A tentative Time King based on crystal specs may be better than Broadcaster or unknown .  Fifth, was your proposed TIME KING ID based on a crystal packet, or data from one of the various crystal catalogs?  We have used crystal specs for tentative ID's.... but an ad would be nice :)

plainsmen
Posted December 30, 2013 - 12:00am

Until we have an ad I'm going to go with Unk as well.

William Smith
Posted January 2, 2014 - 1:03am

I'm eating crow.....II see there was a Yellow Gold Broadcaster in the 1955 Bulova Price Lists, so my Rose vs Yellow argument is bogus.  Someone could probably cross reference prices to our ads, but I'm not gonna check.

I'd thought since all our ads and watch records show Broadcaster as Rose and 17 jewels, then the Yellow Gold w/ 21 jewel count differece could have been Time King...but now I'm not sure.....as we see a Yellow Broadcaster below.

....so I am back to Unknown for now.....