Bulova 1929 -Non-Conforming

Submitted by DennisBlva on
Manufacture Year
1929
Movement Model
10AL
Movement Date Code
Shield
Movement Jewels
15
Movement Serial No.
903627
Case Serial No.
-
Case shape
Square
Case color
Two-tone
Case Manufacturer
Other
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

This 1929, 15J  10 AL movement is working and keeping time. The dial was in poor shape, but it cleaned up quite a bit. This is a non-conforming watch.  Many of the non-conforming watches that I've seen look like later style re-cased watches. This case looks like a Bulova case from the period of the 10AL.  As a matter of fact the seller (incorrectly) called this a 1929 Bulova Ambassador, probably due to the yellow gold inserts above and below the dial.  It is slightly similar, but inside the case appears the words "Coronation Rolled Plate Ellen."  In the center is a shield with three rectangles and an X.  My searches come up with no information on this case.  I really would interested in knowing if anyone has more information on this case. 

1929 non-conforming front cleaned
1929 non-conforming dial
1929 non-conforming mvt
1929 non-conforming case closeup
1929 non-conforming open w mvt
neetstuf-4-u
Posted April 4, 2020 - 9:00pm

Very cool watch. Face really cleaned up well.  You are correct, this falls under the category of Non-conforming because the case is a presumed replacement not produced by Bulova. The only reference I could find regarding the manufacturer is a trademark patent for the Ellen Watch Case Co. I may be wrong, but seem to remember being told that "Coronation" is a classification/grade of plating thickness.

ellen watch case

It's interesting that the Ellen WC Co. was based in NY, NY just as Bulova was. Perhaps, some day we will uncover a connection, but for now it's a 

1929 Non-conforming

DennisBlva
Posted April 4, 2020 - 9:16pm

In reply to by neetstuf-4-u

Wow! That's great detective work! Thanks!  I'm wondering if Ellen bought new movements from Bulova and then cased them. As I said, the case style looks like a 1929-30 case. I take it that there are no other Ellen cases on myBulova as no results came up except for this one.

Dennis

mybulova_admin
Posted April 5, 2020 - 12:13am

In reply to by DennisBlva

I suspect that this is just a simple case of someone putting a Bulova movement (with dial and hands) into a case they had that looked the part.

I don't see Bulova selling their movements to other case manufactures. It's more possible that Bulova bought up or used case stock from other companies during this period to meet sale demands.

For me though I strongly suspect that this is simply just a case or a marriage of parts to make a complete watch.

Non-conforming.

Geoff Baker
Posted April 4, 2020 - 10:42pm

Nice work on the dial clean up Dennis, ready to try your hand at lume now?

1929 Bulova Non-Conforming

Kathy L.
Posted April 6, 2020 - 12:47pm

Very cool watch.

1929 Non-Conforming