Bulova 1941 Alderman

Submitted by aeam6 on
Manufacture Year
1941
Movement Model
10AX
Movement Date Code
Asterisk
Movement Jewels
17
Case Serial No.
1273762-outside 7249-inside
Case shape
Tonneau
Case color
Rose
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Crystal details
20 x 23
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

14K pink gold plate bezel with a copper face and blue-black hands. Has its original leather band. 11-43 with an initial appears to be lightly scratched inside the case back.  The asterisk date mark is stamped between the two screw heads that are just above the U.S.A. legend on the movement.

The face differs from all photos or ads picturing the Alderman, Stamford, Alexander or Aviator in that the markings for the seconds dial are inscribed within a circle rather than a barrel shape. Also in that there is a barrel shaped line inside of the hour numerals.

This was given to my dad as a Christmas present by his sister who worked as a model in New York. I don't know what year. I remember being told she was the Philip Morris girl. 

 

front under daylight
front flash lit
outside back
inside back
movement
aeam6
Posted March 21, 2022 - 4:11pm

I wonder why this is numbered on the inside back when none of the other watches I've looked at in the database seem to be. 

Is the face a non-Bulova replacement?

 

mybulova_admin
Posted March 21, 2022 - 5:49pm

In reply to by aeam6

Are you referring to the hand scratched number below New York?

If so these numbers were made by a jeweler who serviced the watch at some point in it's rich history. This was a common practice of the day, as a record for the person servicing the watch.

mybulova_admin
Posted March 21, 2022 - 5:53pm

The dial does look a little different, but seems to be the real deal. All the elements look like they are correct. As you indicate the sub-second track is typically square ot tonneau shaped, so the circle is what's giving me pause as well.

Looking now for a model reference.

JimDon5822
Posted March 21, 2022 - 10:18pm

The dial does appear to be printed.  You can clearly see the raised ink.  That being said the outline does not appear to match the opening of the case.   I don't recall seeing this type of layout of dial on a Bulova in the 40's.  I am inclined to think this is not a correct dial for this watch.    

aeam6
Posted March 22, 2022 - 11:23am

So then 7249 is probably a date it was serviced?

What else could the markings be but printed?

I notice this Cadet model has the same issues of the outline shape not matching and a circular sub-second track as well as different hands. https://mybulova.com/watches/1947-13003

mybulova_admin
Posted March 22, 2022 - 6:45pm

I'm going to recommend an ID of 1941 Bulova Alderman

Except for the dial variation, the details match nicely. 14KT Rolled Gold Plate case, White metal back, 17 jewel movement.

JimDon5822
Posted March 22, 2022 - 10:34pm

1941 Bulova Alderman seems to be a good match noting the dial inconsistency.