Bulova 1927 -Unknown

Submitted by donegd on
Manufacture Year
1927
Movement Model
6AP
Movement Date Code
Square
Movement Jewels
15
Movement Serial No.
63171
Case Serial No.
9616111
Case shape
CornerCut
Case color
White
Case Manufacturer
Bulova & American Standard
Gender
Ladies
Watch Description

Hi all

I would like the panels help in identifying this ladies watch . I have searched through the db but can't find a match.

the case is in 14k white gold filled. is a hinged case with some very nice engraving on the front back and sides. the inside is marked Bulova 14k gold filled, American Standard.  Pat June 10 1924, and has the serial number 9616111.  

The movement still has the dust cover and is a 15 jewel  Swiss 4 adjusted 6AP.  and is marked with the Square symbol and serial number 63171. Bulova Watch Co.

The movement is missing the crown , which would possibly have been a sapphire topped crown. The stem is still there but as there is no way to wind the watch I can't realy tell if it will work or not. although the balance wheel seems free.

Its a lovely little watch which came with a small batch I bought off ebay. 

regards to all

George

1927 Bulova watch
1929 Bulova watch
1929 Bulova watch
1929 Bulova watch
1929 Bulova watch
bobbee
Posted July 21, 2015 - 6:56am

Nice watch, 1929 date by the case serial number.

UNK.

mybulova_admin
Posted July 21, 2015 - 7:06am

A first for this model I believe as we have yet to see anything like her.

1929 Bulova unknown for me too.

donegd
Posted July 21, 2015 - 7:39am

has anyone got a sapphire crown in their stocks that would fit this watch ?

regards George

donegd
Posted July 21, 2015 - 7:41am

I think the engraving at the top and bottom of the bezel is really fantastic

jabs
Posted July 21, 2015 - 7:57am

1929 Unknown, I am afraid that identification would be difficult, I've seen these watch earlier and I found no information

Alex
Posted July 21, 2015 - 8:45am

Very nice watch, Donegd. I wonder how many more you have! Three things I can say about this watch: unknown to me, and I have one myself. I call this shape the "clock" shape after the clock my grand parents had on their cabinet. This shape was last advertised in 1925, so very surprising to find this shape with a special window shape as well at much later date. And then the date. Haha. Some of you know that I did an investigation on these cases starting with 96. Together with the 95 and 97 numbers they share something strange: the case signature is the case signature of 1927 using "American Standard" and a curved patent indication at the bottom while the 1929 case signature had dropped "American Standard" and replaced it by "New York" and has a straight patent indication at the top. So it was strange to find 95, 96, and 97 cases with "American Standard" and not "New York". Then I did a tally of what movements these 95, 96, 97 cases have. See below the findings. The majority is from 1927. Including this watch. And no 95, 96, 97 case has "New York", they all have "American Standard". All cases with 90 to 94 do have "New York" and not "American Standard" so seem to be "true" 1929 cases. 1927 case numbers go all the way up to 77, all with "American Standard". So this watch has a 1927 case signature, a 1927 movement, but a 96 number. My conclusion is that for some reason these 95, 96, 97 cases are an exception and are indeed from 1927. Thanks Donegd for posting this watch. Please let me know if you have more 95, 96, 97 cases so we can increase the sample of this tally. By the way, the 4 1929 movements we find in below table could have been replacement movements by people who thought that 96 stands for 1929........

 

SUMMARY
 
 
 

Case serial
Movement date

1926
1927
1928
1929

95
 
1
 
 

96
4
8
 
4

97
 
3
 
 

 

Alex
Posted July 21, 2015 - 8:49am

hm, that table did not present itself correct. It says:

case:    year

           1926    1927   1928   1929

95         0          1           0        0

96         4          8           0        4

97         0          3           0        0

donegd
Posted July 21, 2015 - 9:07am

Thanks Alex for the info.  this watch came in a batch with with 5 others 3 bulova's and 3 Elgins all sold as non working, but when I opened them up all worked and are ticking away apart from this watch and one of the other bulova's.

I started to consentrate on collecting ladies watches a few months ago. and have around 45 now mainly Bulova's but I have a few Elgins and Welta's

Alex
Posted July 21, 2015 - 10:30am

Great. Are you going to upload them all?

donegd
Posted July 21, 2015 - 10:58am

I have uploaded quite a few so far. I tend to wait until i have cleaned them up a bit first. I must admit its a great pity that there is not a similar site to this for Elgins as I have a few of them now.